Thank you for posting this.
I looked out of mild curiosity, but found the article very interesting
good article.
do you know any psychopaths?.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/may/21/jon-ronson-how-to-spot-a-psychopath.
Thank you for posting this.
I looked out of mild curiosity, but found the article very interesting
at one time, it seemed that the majority of those leaving, were young ones brought up in the cult.. from what i can see now (at least on here), there seems to be a high number of 20+ baptised members years leaving.. has this always been the case?
it might be i just didn't notice from my parochial view from the kingdom hall!.
or are there really more long standing jw's leaving now, than ever before?.
Hi Sizemik:
The flow could quickly move from a trickle to a flood.
and they'll turn that around as "proof" that we REALLY are so very very close.
no looking up jws on the internet first?
and uses a phone book, who even owns a phone book anymore?.
here is the an "experience" from pg 7 of the august 2011 awake.. my teenage years were a blur of alcohol,.
I think that lots of other religions quote similar experiences.
Its human. And as Mao said:
religion is the opium of the people.
So shes just given up one drug for another.
july 11, 2011 will be 34 years since i was baptised as one of jw's.
the sleeping pill i took was in the form of them providing the information that made the bible come alive with the truth and insisting that they go by the bible not adding or taking away from it.
i had negative experiences from local brothers from time to time, however i excused them as part of being imperfect.
Welcome to the forum alg.
Whilst searching for your way, you might like to look at this link:
http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/diary.html
in the light of your present situation.
and
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/preach.php
on just who heeds the "preach the good news" message of Matt 24:14
You will need to get used to the fact that the borg tries VERY HARD, to prevent its
followers reading things NOT WRITTEN BY THEM.
But it is the only way that you will get answers to your questions.
Good luck on your search.
how does a jw feel when he "has" to shun someone he likes/loves?.
during the time i was in, i shunned people.
but as i didn't like them, it was no problem.. but now, i'm trying to understand how my family might really feel.. (i presume here, of course, that they do "like/love me".).
Thank you all for your responses.
One thing is becoming clear: disfellowshipped ones are MORE LOVING, MORE FORGIVING and MORE UNDERSTANDING than those so called christians in the congregation.
Mr FALCON: Just a touch of irony:
Then again, if they were a molester or rapist, they probably aren't DF'd and are currently appointed and/or annointed.
LOL.
I have to go to work now. Will catch up tomorrow.
God bless you all.
how does a jw feel when he "has" to shun someone he likes/loves?.
during the time i was in, i shunned people.
but as i didn't like them, it was no problem.. but now, i'm trying to understand how my family might really feel.. (i presume here, of course, that they do "like/love me".).
Thanks for your experience Morbidzbaby.
What a shame that your relation with your brother has been spoiled.
Broken promises: I guess that my family might feel the same way, though I live a
long way away so it is probably easier (out of sight...etc )
Eruption and Loubelle: well done for having character
Firstlastname: its scarey how we so easily fall in line.
how does a jw feel when he "has" to shun someone he likes/loves?.
during the time i was in, i shunned people.
but as i didn't like them, it was no problem.. but now, i'm trying to understand how my family might really feel.. (i presume here, of course, that they do "like/love me".).
How does a JW feel when he "HAS" to shun someone he likes/loves?
During the time I was in, I shunned people. But as I didn't like them, it was no problem.
But now, I'm trying to understand how my family might REALLY feel.
(I presume here, of course, that they DO "like/love me".)
thats what my pops told me after i was refuting false wt doctrine.
"that even if im right about 1914 etc, that we need a support structure to get thru life..." hes older in years and their lives are surrounded by good jws.
thats all they are is a social club for non-thinkers.
finally free:
if ever i meet a nice woman who i one day end up building a life together with,
i will lose my family.
Not necessarily. If you are considered "free" to remarry, then that will change nothing.
I wasnt, and was DF in my absence. But then I have MY "nice woman" with me, so I really don't care.
well here goes... i apologize in advance if this turns into a long and disjointed rant, but i just have to begin typing in order to keep from exploding.
i realize that what im about to say could seriously jeopardize my anonymity, but i think ive reached the point that i just dont care.
i want this to be over.. let me explain what caused me to rip up a letter and get up and walk out in the middle of an elders meeting two weekends ago.. our boe has been embroiled in a nasty fight for the past 2 years over a certain brothers business dealings.
Punkofnice:
sounds like you are coming through OK.
(Sorry this is about me but I'm just making a point).
I dont think you need to apologise here. You are among friends.
Glad to hear Mrs P is OK with you. Good luck.
jlp
thats what my pops told me after i was refuting false wt doctrine.
"that even if im right about 1914 etc, that we need a support structure to get thru life..." hes older in years and their lives are surrounded by good jws.
thats all they are is a social club for non-thinkers.
It sounds like your dad doesnt REALLY believe the WT.
I can understand that, after a lifetime in the cult, and especially if its "good" for them,
ie
their lives are surrounded by good jws
then why rock the boat?